[Simon Hodson]

Attached.
___________________________
DATA SCIENCE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE APPROACHING!
CODATA-RDA School of Research Data Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy, 1-12 August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/ – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016.
CODATA International Training Workshop in Big Data for Science, Beijing, 4-17 July http://www.codata.org/news/105/62/CODATA-International-Training-Workshop… – FINDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016
___________________________
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[Jessica Parland-von Essen]

Thank you, I think the new text looks good. Unfortunately this meeting hour is a bit inconvenient for me, so it’s difficult to join in, but I enjoy the e-mail discussions very much
🙂
Jessica
Jessica Parland-von Essen
CSC
From: “Simon Hodson”
To: “RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG”
Sent: Friday, 15 April, 2016 16:23:37
Subject: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Latest Version with Badapple Addition
Attached.
___________________________
DATA SCIENCE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE APPROACHING!
CODATA-RDA School of Research Data Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy, 1-12 August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/ – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016.
CODATA International Training Workshop in Big Data for Science, Beijing, 4-17 July http://www.codata.org/news/105/62/CODATA-International-Training-Workshop… – FINDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016
___________________________
Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Blog: http://www.codata.org/blog
Diary: http://bit.ly/simonhodson99-calendar
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
CODATA (Committee on Data of the International Council for Science), 5 rue Auguste Vacquerie, 75016 Paris, FRANCE
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[Baden Appleyard]

Colleagues,
Please find enclosed the version of the document with some further
refinements to 1C, and inclusion of the CC-BY 4.0 and minor edits to the
table. Now renamed with the date as 16 April 2016.
Thank you for your consideration.
Have a good weekend.
b
________________
*Baden M Appleyard*
*Barrister*
*National Programme Director – AusGOAL*
Mobile: +61(0)459 824 061
LinkedIn
AusGOAL (the Australian Governments’ Open Access and Licensing Programme)
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[Jean Bernard Minster]

Thanks,. do you ever sleep? 🙂 Bernard.

[Baden Appleyard]

Rarely! 🙂 There is too much work to do, but its all really interesting.
🙂
b
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Jean-Bernard Minster
wrote:

[ENRIQUE ALONSO GARCIA]

Hi Baden,
Just when you were leaving the telecon to sleep a little bit I was asking you to have us sent the web page to the Australian Gvt web page that reflects all these policies concerning CC´s -if there is such a site (or alternatively a policy doc that officially rrefekcts them). IYou may have shared it before but if so, it scaped my attention.
Thanks in advance for your response
By the way, congratulations for the move on Feb 26:
Australian Government makes spatial data free
https://www.whatech.com/infrastructure-protection/news/146416-pel612-aus…
Take care
Enrique
________________________________
De: b.appleyard=***@***.***-groups.org [b.appleyard=***@***.***-groups.org] En nombre de badapple [***@***.***]
Enviado el: viernes, 15 de abril de 2016 18:42
Para: Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
CC: Simon Codata
Asunto: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Latest Version with Badapple Addition
Rarely! 🙂 There is too much work to do, but its all really interesting. 🙂
b
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Jean-Bernard Minster wrote:
Thanks,. do you ever sleep? 🙂 Bernard.
On Apr 15, 2016, at 09:28, badapple wrote:
Colleagues,
Please find enclosed the version of the document with some further refinements to 1C, and inclusion of the CC-BY 4.0 and minor edits to the table. Now renamed with the date as 16 April 2016.
Thank you for your consideration.
Have a good weekend.
b
________________
Baden M Appleyard
Barrister
National Programme Director – AusGOAL
Mobile: +61(0)459 824 061
LinkedIn
AusGOAL (the Australian Governments’ Open Access and Licensing Programme)
Visit our Website | Like and Share us on Facebook | Join our LinkedIn Group | Follow Us on Twitter: @AusGOAL | +1 on Google Plus | View our Slides
AusGOAL is the Government and Research Lead of Creative Commons Australia
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Simon Hodson wrote:
Attached.
___________________________
DATA SCIENCE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE APPROACHING!
CODATA-RDA School of Research Data Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy, 1-12 August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/ – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016.
CODATA International Training Workshop in Big Data for Science, Beijing, 4-17 July http://www.codata.org/news/105/62/CODATA-International-Training-Workshop… – FINDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016
___________________________
Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Blog: http://www.codata.org/blog
Diary: http://bit.ly/simonhodson99-calendar
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
CODATA (Committee on Data of the International Council for Science), 5 rue Auguste Vacquerie, 75016 Paris, FRANCE
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[Baden Appleyard]

Hi Enrique,
My apologies for the delay responding to you. Thanks for your question. I’m
sorry I missed your chat. I was dialling into the conversation on the
phone, so I did not have the advantage of reading the in-line texting.
I spoke of the AusGOAL policy on the phone. AusGOAL was established as a
cross-jurisdictional programme and framework by all of the Australian
state, territory and federal governments, at the request of COAG, which is
the Council of Australian Governments (which is the then Prime Minister,
State Premiers and Territory Chief Ministers). AusGOAL is written into
many of the Australian jurisdictions IP Policies, and or open data
policies. The intent was to have the one umbrella framework and programme
(AusGOAL) to underpin the policy position for all Australian Governments.
While its a bit like herding cats, there has been substantial compliance in
most jurisdictions, but their level of maturity of implementation varies.
AusGOAL widened its brief to include research and research data in 2011.
AusGOAL was endorsed by the Council of Australian University Librarians
(which is a group that directs guidance on copyright policy, repositories
and research services advice to Vice Chancellors) in 2013-14. As
discussed, the Australian National Data Service and AusGOAL had also at
that time entered into a strategic relationship as well, with an executive
director of ANDS on the AusGOAL Board. AusGOAL also has open educational
resources (OER) now fixed in its sights as well.
AusGOAL works vertically and horizontally.. Meaning it works vertically
through levels of government (federal, state and local) and research and
horizontally through sectors and fields of endeavour that straddle the
hierarchy of governments and research. When it comes to research, AusGOAL
engagement includes both government research (from the 9 governments) and
university research (publicly funded).
AusGOALs website, which is now very tired and very ready for a refresh, is
located in my signature block, along with the rest of the AusGOALs social
media channels.
But, perhaps some signposts…
AusGOAL principles… very brief – but we do A LOT of in-person engagement
with agencies and institutions where we flesh these out…
http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-principles
AusGOAL qualities of open data…
http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-qualities-of-open-data – technical in
nature but with simple one linder explanation of benefits of the technical
aspect to the community.. linked data aligned.
AusGOAL research data FAQ’s….http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/research-data-faqs
New Zealand also created a sister framework, NZGOAL,
https://www.ict.govt.nz/guidance-and-resources/open-government/new-zeala…,
but it does not, as far as I am aware, engage with research. I could be
wrong on that now.. but that’s traditionally its position…
Regarding the licensing of the GNAF – Thank you. That was something I
advised on to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (or more
correctly, the Department of Communications, where the work to open the
GNAF began). But they chose not to take that advice. In fact, they broke
the first commandment of open government data – “don’t create yet another
open licence if you don’t need to!”. When they released that version of
the G-NAF they created a hybrid of the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0
Licence, with a silly additional restriction to go with it. I think that
was because Australia Post provided some data that makes up the GNAF, but
they didnt reach out to obtain guidance on how to deal with that issue.
Consequently, it is not, in my view, an open licence because it fails
probably three elements of the Open Definition. http://www.opendefinition.org (I
sit on the Advisory Council on the Open Definition),
The world does not need governments creating hybrid, or even bespoke open
licences when there are many out there already that are perfectly fine to
use. They just need to understand how to use the ones that everyone else
uses. Licence proliferation is an anathema to open. But, I suppose, I
preach to the converted…. Nevertheless, the G-NAF being a little less
restrictive (and less expensive) than it once was is a step in the right
direction. They should stick with a CC-BY 4.0 Licence though – and they
still can…
Thanks again for your question. Happy to discuss and/or answer any
questions you may have.
Kind regards,
b
________________
*Baden M Appleyard*
*Barrister*
*National Programme Director – AusGOAL*
Mobile: +61(0)459 824 061
LinkedIn
AusGOAL
Visit our Website | Like and Share us on
Facebook | Join our LinkedIn Group
| Follow Us on Twitter: @AusGOAL
| +1 on Google Plus

|
View our Slides
AusGOAL is the Government and Research Lead of Creative Commons Australia
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Enrique Alonso García <
***@***.***-estado.es> wrote:

[ENRIQUE ALONSO GARCIA]

Thank you so much Baden, I haven’t got time yet to look at it in detail but I will ASAP.
Take care
De: b.appleyard=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] En nombre de badapple
Enviado el: lunes, 18 de abril de 2016 13:06
Para: Enrique Alonso García; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
CC: Jean-Bernard Minster; Simon Codata
Asunto: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Latest Version with Badapple Addition
Hi Enrique,
My apologies for the delay responding to you. Thanks for your question. I’m sorry I missed your chat. I was dialling into the conversation on the phone, so I did not have the advantage of reading the in-line texting.
I spoke of the AusGOAL policy on the phone. AusGOAL was established as a cross-jurisdictional programme and framework by all of the Australian state, territory and federal governments, at the request of COAG, which is the Council of Australian Governments (which is the then Prime Minister, State Premiers and Territory Chief Ministers). AusGOAL is written into many of the Australian jurisdictions IP Policies, and or open data policies. The intent was to have the one umbrella framework and programme (AusGOAL) to underpin the policy position for all Australian Governments. While its a bit like herding cats, there has been substantial compliance in most jurisdictions, but their level of maturity of implementation varies. AusGOAL widened its brief to include research and research data in 2011. AusGOAL was endorsed by the Council of Australian University Librarians (which is a group that directs guidance on copyright policy, repositories and research services advice to Vice Chancellors) in 2013-14. As discussed, the Australian National Data Service and AusGOAL had also at that time entered into a strategic relationship as well, with an executive director of ANDS on the AusGOAL Board. AusGOAL also has open educational resources (OER) now fixed in its sights as well.
AusGOAL works vertically and horizontally.. Meaning it works vertically through levels of government (federal, state and local) and research and horizontally through sectors and fields of endeavour that straddle the hierarchy of governments and research. When it comes to research, AusGOAL engagement includes both government research (from the 9 governments) and university research (publicly funded).
AusGOALs website, which is now very tired and very ready for a refresh, is located in my signature block, along with the rest of the AusGOALs social media channels.
But, perhaps some signposts…
AusGOAL principles… very brief – but we do A LOT of in-person engagement with agencies and institutions where we flesh these out…http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-principles
AusGOAL qualities of open data… http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-qualities-of-open-data – technical in nature but with simple one linder explanation of benefits of the technical aspect to the community.. linked data aligned.
AusGOAL research data FAQ’s….http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/research-data-faqs
New Zealand also created a sister framework, NZGOAL, https://www.ict.govt.nz/guidance-and-resources/open-government/new-zeala…, but it does not, as far as I am aware, engage with research. I could be wrong on that now.. but that’s traditionally its position…
Regarding the licensing of the GNAF – Thank you. That was something I advised on to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (or more correctly, the Department of Communications, where the work to open the GNAF began). But they chose not to take that advice. In fact, they broke the first commandment of open government data – “don’t create yet another open licence if you don’t need to!”. When they released that version of the G-NAF they created a hybrid of the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 Licence, with a silly additional restriction to go with it. I think that was because Australia Post provided some data that makes up the GNAF, but they didnt reach out to obtain guidance on how to deal with that issue. Consequently, it is not, in my view, an open licence because it fails probably three elements of the Open Definition. http://www.opendefinition.org (I sit on the Advisory Council on the Open Definition),
The world does not need governments creating hybrid, or even bespoke open licences when there are many out there already that are perfectly fine to use. They just need to understand how to use the ones that everyone else uses. Licence proliferation is an anathema to open. But, I suppose, I preach to the converted…. Nevertheless, the G-NAF being a little less restrictive (and less expensive) than it once was is a step in the right direction. They should stick with a CC-BY 4.0 Licence though – and they still can…
Thanks again for your question. Happy to discuss and/or answer any questions you may have.
Kind regards,
b
________________
Baden M Appleyard
Barrister
National Programme Director – AusGOAL
Mobile: +61(0)459 824 061
LinkedIn
AusGOAL
Visit our Website | Like and Share us on Facebook | Join our LinkedIn Group | Follow Us on Twitter: @AusGOAL | +1 on Google Plus | View our Slides
AusGOAL is the Government and Research Lead of Creative Commons Australia
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Enrique Alonso García wrote:
Hi Baden,
Just when you were leaving the telecon to sleep a little bit I was asking you to have us sent the web page to the Australian Gvt web page that reflects all these policies concerning CC´s -if there is such a site (or alternatively a policy doc that officially rrefekcts them). IYou may have shared it before but if so, it scaped my attention.
Thanks in advance for your response
By the way, congratulations for the move on Feb 26:
Australian Government makes spatial data free
https://www.whatech.com/infrastructure-protection/news/146416-pel612-aus…
Take care
Enrique
________________________________
De: b.appleyard=***@***.***-groups.org [b.appleyard=***@***.***-groups.org] En nombre de badapple [***@***.***]
Enviado el: viernes, 15 de abril de 2016 18:42
Para: Jean-Bernard Minster; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
CC: Simon Codata
Asunto: Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Latest Version with Badapple Addition
Rarely! 🙂 There is too much work to do, but its all really interesting. 🙂
b
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Jean-Bernard Minster wrote:
Thanks,. do you ever sleep? 🙂 Bernard.
On Apr 15, 2016, at 09:28, badapple wrote:
Colleagues,
Please find enclosed the version of the document with some further refinements to 1C, and inclusion of the CC-BY 4.0 and minor edits to the table. Now renamed with the date as 16 April 2016.
Thank you for your consideration.
Have a good weekend.
b
________________
Baden M Appleyard
Barrister
National Programme Director – AusGOAL
Mobile: +61(0)459 824 061
LinkedIn
AusGOAL (the Australian Governments’ Open Access and Licensing Programme)
Visit our Website | Like and Share us on Facebook | Join our LinkedIn Group | Follow Us on Twitter: @AusGOAL | +1 on Google Plus | View our Slides
AusGOAL is the Government and Research Lead of Creative Commons Australia
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Simon Hodson wrote:
Attached.
___________________________
DATA SCIENCE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE APPROACHING!
CODATA-RDA School of Research Data Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy, 1-12 August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/ – FUNDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016.
CODATA International Training Workshop in Big Data for Science, Beijing, 4-17 July http://www.codata.org/news/105/62/CODATA-International-Training-Workshop… – FINDING AVAILABLE – DEADLINE 18 April 2016
___________________________
Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
E-Mail: ***@***.*** | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
Blog: http://www.codata.org/blog
Diary: http://bit.ly/simonhodson99-calendar
Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
CODATA (Committee on Data of the International Council for Science), 5 rue Auguste Vacquerie, 75016 Paris, FRANCE
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