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[Simon Hodson]

Dear Matt, Yolanda,
Thanks for this.
Any news? We certainly do not want to lose the Baltimore option!
Best wishes,
Simon.
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[Simon Hodson]

Thanks, Matt. That’s reassuring.
As I understand it we need to get that info into the spreadsheet, make sure we’re happy with how that looks and check with Mark that there is no additional reason to prefer the Denver option.
My mind is that we do due diligence, but unless there is a major reason in the details against Baltimore, the view of the group was that that is our best option and we should go for it.
Best wishes,
Simon.
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[Mark Parsons]

On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Simon Hodson wrote:
As I understand it we need to get that info into the spreadsheet, make sure we’re happy with how that looks and check with Mark that there is no additional reason to prefer the Denver option.
The reasons to prefer the Denver option are: the September dates, a nice venue in a nice locale, Denver is more of an international draw than Baltimore (and a bit more accessible). I’ll leave it to you all to decide if that is compelling. I’m beginning to think it is. I wish I felt more reassured the Feds will come to Baltimore.
cheers,
-m.

[Mustapha Mokrane]

Dear All,
I did not express any strong opinion last Monday regarding the choice
between Denver or Baltimore. I did hear a vocal majority but not
necessarily an overwhelming support in favour of Baltimore based on the
hope of attracting the US Feds.
Considering the latest information from Mark about the Denver venue and
also the fact that participation and support from many WDS-affiliated data
centres located in the area would be greatly facilitated, I would like to
add my voice to Mark’s and indicate a clear preference for the Denver
option over Baltimore.
I suggest that we talk this Monday 19 October at the usual time (13:00 UTC)
to revisit this point. I already sent an extra calendar invitation and call
details below for reference)
Best wishes.
Mustapha
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[Jean Bernard Minster]

I too would prefer Denver, in September, to Baltimore, in October. Bernard

[Francine Berman]

All,
My personal preference is Baltimore because of the proximity for the feds who have trouble travelling. That being said, some of our stakeholders and key folks did not make it to Paris because P6 and the jewish new year (Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah) conflicted. I checked the October dates for Baltimore (10-14?) and it looks like Yom Kippur would conflict again. For that reason, I’d be more inclined to go with Denver so we can keep P8 as an option for as many of the RDA community as possible.
Fran
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Dear All,
I did not express any strong opinion last Monday regarding the choice between Denver or Baltimore. I did hear a vocal majority but not necessarily an overwhelming support in favour of Baltimore based on the hope of attracting the US Feds.
Considering the latest information from Mark about the Denver venue and also the fact that participation and support from many WDS-affiliated data centres located in the area would be greatly facilitated, I would like to add my voice to Mark’s and indicate a clear preference for the Denver option over Baltimore.
I suggest that we talk this Monday 19 October at the usual time (13:00 UTC) to revisit this point. I already sent an extra calendar invitation and call details below for reference)
Best wishes.
Mustapha
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On 17 October 2015 at 05:12, Mark Parsons
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Simon Hodson wrote:
As I understand it we need to get that info into the spreadsheet, make sure we’re happy with how that looks and check with Mark that there is no additional reason to prefer the Denver option.
The reasons to prefer the Denver option are: the September dates, a nice venue in a nice locale, Denver is more of an international draw than Baltimore (and a bit more accessible). I’ll leave it to you all to decide if that is compelling. I’m beginning to think it is. I wish I felt more reassured the Feds will come to Baltimore.
cheers,
-m.
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[Jean Bernard Minster]

Good point. It also conflicts with Columbus Day and a few (not too many) keep that Day as a Family day. B.

[Simon Hodson]

All,
My concerns about Denver and my preference for Baltimore are expressed in the following:
– we originally preferred an East Coast venue after P5 numbers were down.
– a quick sampling of flight cost to Baltimore and Denver from Europe shows a 2:3 ratio (i.e. 50% more).
– I think if we go to Denver we are likely abandoning the idea of a large policy and issues forum for the shared Wednesday – the rationale for that day and for holding it East Coast was to attract government, UN etc people. This will be harder to do in Denver.
– the ‘Data Revolution’ activity on SDGs is planning an Open Data Conference. This has been mentioned on previous calls. At Eye-on-Earth, Nairobi in September was mentioned (I will check this with Bob).
– the lead in time for the research conference (SciDataCon) part of this event has been cut dramatically. I think even the difference between Sept and Oct helps us.
Best wishes,
Simon.
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[Mustapha Mokrane]

Dear Sara,
It seems we won’t have the pricing for either options today. However, Mark
visited the Denver venue and reported on this with some additional details
(see below).
Best wishes.
Mustapha
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From: Parsons, Mark

Date: 16 October 2015 at 06:50
Subject: visit to Sheraton in Denver
To: Matt Burdetsky
Cc: Simon Hodson , Mustapha Mokrane <
***@***.***-wds.org>, “Meleco, Yolanda Anne”
Hi Matt,
I visited the Sheraton in Denver today. I was impressed.
The hotel is right in the heart of downtown, right on the free downtown
shuttle that connects to the new train from the airport (opening Mar 2016).
It’s on the downtown mall and easy walking to the major dining and
entertainment areas, LoDo, Larimer Sq., plus the Capital, Art Museum.
Baseball field, etc.
Mohamed was gracious and not pushy, but as you might suspect, he thinks
there are more options available if we have a larger room book and can
consider other dates in September. The rate he offers is very competitive
with downtown pricing, so we might do better than we usually do on
percentages of registrants who stay at the hotel.
There are essentially two set up options. The one that is available for the
week of the 11th has the limitation, as you know, of having to use the
plenary room as the lunch room. That means that we need to give them an
hour to convert the room if we set it up in the round (bad idea) or two
hours if we set it up theater style.
The other option is a bigger ballroom that can be split in half with lunch
on one side and plenary on the other. Both options have sufficient breakout
space. The second option has more than enough. Mohamed will get back to you
on the availability of the bigger option, but I think it’s contingent on a
bigger book.
I actually prefer the first option. The second option might be more
functional, but it’s very conventional and in a lower level without
windows. The first option is on the 2nd level of an IM Pei designed
building with nice high ceilings and big open windows in the
reception/coffee area. All the breakout rooms have natural light too (plus
shades). The acoustics are clearly better too.
All the AV and such seems fine. I impressed upon them our wireless needs,
but we should send them Fotis’s specs. They’re confident they have enough,
of course, but they also seem adaptable and willing to add what we need.
The hotel was significantly renovated in 2011 and seems nice, with lots of
good networking space, and easy access to coffee shops and restaurants. The
rooms are pleasant. Some have awesome views. Standard amenities. Nice
fitness center. Year round outdoor pool. etc.
In short, I think it would be a nice place to have a meeting, and September
is my favorite month in Colorado 🙂
I suspect we could get some local sponsorship and in-kind organisational
support from the myriad universities, data centers, and research labs in
the area.
cheers,
-m.

[Mustapha Mokrane]

Hi Simon, All,
Concerning flight costs and accessibility: from Asia (Tokyo) Denver is
actually more accessible than Baltimore and the prices are identical. From
Tokyo I can get a daily direct flights to Denver for 1170 USD
,
whereas no direct flights are available for Baltimore. I would need either
to fly to Dulles and commute to Baltimore (1 hour drive) or take an
indirect flight to Baltimore which costs 1010 USD
.
Similarly, a flight from Sydney to Denver costs 1100 USD

and
at least 1200 USD to Baltimore
.
I
appreciate that the contingent of participants from Asia and Pacific is
probably lower than that from Europe. However, we should make an effort to
facilitate participation worldwide and especially from under-represented
regions! From Europe the situation is not as clear cut as you describe
either: no direct flights are available from Paris neither to Baltimore nor
to Denver. The cheapest indirect flight on BA costs 1000 USD for Denver

and 960 USD for Baltimore

.
Best wishes.
Mustapha
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