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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Gary Berg-Cross

Ulrich, U>My favorite definition for collection would actually be: A collection is a digital object which is identified by a PID and consists of a set of PIDs/Ids - full stop ​Simple is good but this may miss an important point which is that a Collection has composition and a statement that it has parts (which your have IDs for) is as important, it seems to me, to state as the IDs themselves. Gary Berg-Cross, Ph.D. ***@***.*** ​​ ​
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Reagan Moore

Gary: We focus on collections that enable research collaborations. The types of entities we register into a collection include: * sub-collections * files * soft links to other collections (micro-service structured objects) * soft links to objects in external repositories (micro-service structured objects) * database queries (micro-service invocation) * workflows (workflow structured objects) * sensor data streams (micro-service structured objects)
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April
2016

RE: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Varsha Khodiyar

In case you have not seen the blog post by Daniel Katz, I think this mailing list will find it of interest To better understand research communication, we need a GROID (group object identifier) Best wishes, Varsha From: uschwar1=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of uschwar1 Sent: 19 April 2016 09:34 To: jjyork; Gary; Data Fabric IG; Research Data Collections WG
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Ulrich Schwardmann

Dear Jeremy, Jeff, Gary, You are right, that the purpose of the collection definition of the collection WG is to set a minimum bar to get as much specificity as necessary in order to outline an API at the end, that is able to handle specific queries on collections. The question whether DOs might be identified by a formal ID, or by a query, or by some other method, is currently not really solved in this context, and the idea to construct a collection by some function is rather new in the collection WG.
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Ulrich Schwardmann

Dear Jeremy, Jeff, Gary, You are right, that the purpose of the collection definition of the collection WG is to set a minimum bar to get as much specificity as necessary in order to outline an API at the end, that is able to handle specific queries on collections. The question whether DOs might be identified by a formal ID, or by a query, or by some other method, is currently not really solved in this context, and the idea to construct a collection by some function is rather new in the collection WG.
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Jeremy York

If I am following correctly (and please disregard if not) a key question to formulating the definition is how digital objects are identified (and whether they have to be). That is, they might be identified by a formal ID, or by a query, or by some other method (including that someone might say a collection of bits--which themselves might have no identifying features, though they could collectively be described--make up the collection or entity they are interested in understanding as a collected whole).
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Gary Berg-Cross

Keith, In short I think the answer is yes, that collections such as generated by queries can be parts of DO collections. I would go back to Reagan Moore's early observation (to effect if I understand right) that " "Digital collections implement arrangement by a community for organizing their digital entities.." They are then aggregations of interest defined by communities. Now this ultra flexibility may, I have a sense of worry without having figured this out, overload the role of digital object since it seems to
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Jacob Jett

I suppose my counter question is: Is a part of a digital object a digital object itself? If yes, then yes. If not...what would the use case be for collecting it? Also of possible interest, the W3C's Web Annotation working group has a method for turning any segment of web resource into a distinct web resource. That approach to defining identity for segments of objects might be applicable here. Regards, Jacob _____________________________________________________ Jacob Jett Research Assistant
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Keith Jeffery

Can a collection be parts of digitsl objects? I am thinking of a collection of cited datasrts where the part of each dataset cited is defined by a query See the RFA group om citation best. K Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone ---- Gary Berg-Cross wrote ---- I was also thinking along the lines of Jacob's suggestions, but hadn't gotten as far. Can a collection be parts of digitsl objects? I am thinking of a collection of cited datasrts where the part of each dataset cited is defined by a query See the RFA group om citation best. K
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April
2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

by Gary Berg-Cross

I was also thinking along the lines of Jacob's suggestions, but hadn't gotten as far. >Rather than define the collection as multiple sets (one of identifiers, one of links, and one of metadata), why not just define it as a set of digital objects (each of which has an identifier, some link pointing to it, I was also thinking along the lines of Jacob's suggestions, but hadn't gotten as far. >Rather than define the collection as multiple sets (one of identifiers, one of links, and one of metadata), why not just define it as a set of
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