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19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

I realize I am not addressing all of the concerns that have been raised,
but I wonder if a way to move forward would be something like the
definition below:
A collection is a digital object which is identified by a PID and consists
of a set of digital objects with explicitly defined relationships that are
identified in explicitly defined ways.
It seems that for the machine actionability in particular, an explicit way
of identifying objects and understanding the relationship between them may

19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Assuming that collections can be dynamic, it occurs to me, without giving it a great deal of thought, that the general principles developed in the Dynamic Data Citation WG might answer some of the questions here.
I’ll also through in my view on Ulrich’s simple definition below as a decent starting point.
Best,
Larry

19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Assuming that collections can be dynamic, it occurs to me, without giving it a great deal of thought, that the general principles developed in the Dynamic Data Citation WG might answer some of the questions here.
I’ll also through in my view on Ulrich’s simple definition below as a decent starting point.
Best,
Larry

19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Assuming that collections can be dynamic, it occurs to me, without giving it a great deal of thought, that the general principles developed in the Dynamic Data Citation WG might answer some of the questions here.
I’ll also through in my view on Ulrich’s simple definition below as a decent starting point.
Best,
Larry

19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Ulrich,
U>My favorite definition for collection would actually be: A collection is
a digital object which is identified by a PID and consists of a set of
PIDs/Ids - full stop
​Simple is good but this may miss an important point which is that a
Collection has composition and a statement that it has parts (which your
have IDs for) is as important, it seems to me, to state as the IDs
themselves.
Gary Berg-Cross, Ph.D.
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19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Gary:
We focus on collections that enable research collaborations. The types of entities we register into a collection include:
* sub-collections
* files
* soft links to other collections (micro-service structured objects)
* soft links to objects in external repositories (micro-service structured objects)
* database queries (micro-service invocation)
* workflows (workflow structured objects)
* sensor data streams (micro-service structured objects)

19 Apr 2016

RE: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

In case you have not seen the blog post by Daniel Katz, I think this mailing list will find it of interest
To better understand research communication, we need a GROID (group object identifier)
Best wishes,
Varsha
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19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Dear Jeremy, Jeff, Gary,
You are right, that the purpose of the collection definition of the
collection WG is to set a minimum bar to get as much specificity as
necessary in order to outline an API at the end, that is able to handle
specific queries on collections.
The question whether DOs might be identified by a formal ID, or by a
query, or by some other method, is currently not really solved in this
context, and the idea to construct a collection by some function is
rather new in the collection WG.

19 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

Dear Jeremy, Jeff, Gary,
You are right, that the purpose of the collection definition of the
collection WG is to set a minimum bar to get as much specificity as
necessary in order to outline an API at the end, that is able to handle
specific queries on collections.
The question whether DOs might be identified by a formal ID, or by a
query, or by some other method, is currently not really solved in this
context, and the idea to construct a collection by some function is
rather new in the collection WG.

18 Apr 2016

Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-dft][rda-collection-wg] Re: [rda-datafabric-ig][rda-collection-wg] Some thoughts on "Data Aggregations" terminology & concepts

If I am following correctly (and please disregard if not) a key question to
formulating the definition is how digital objects are identified (and
whether they have to be). That is, they might be identified by a formal ID,
or by a query, or by some other method (including that someone might say a
collection of bits--which themselves might have no identifying features,
though they could collectively be described--make up the collection or
entity they are interested in understanding as a collected whole).

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