No copyright in facts

27 Mar 2015

To be precise: data, in the sense of a body of facts, cannot be copyrighted. For example, the white pages in a telephone directory are not protected by copyright. Nor can facts the patented.
A document that presents a selection of facts can be copyright. An idea about how to apply a fact can be patented. In a research context this is sometimes helpful and sometimes unhelpful. But the problem isn’t IP in data as such.
Regards,
Chris Morris
STFC
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Hey All,
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In my mind, we should aspire towards a situation where Copyright is no longer legislated over research data, full stop. I do realize this is not realistic given any reasonable timeframe, nor a helpful first step in any strategy. …
Cheers,
Richard Hosking
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    Author: Richard Hosking

    Date: 27 Mar, 2015

    Hey Chris, I agree with the distinctions, but in practice making these determinations is often incredibly difficult, and likely beyond the legal understanding of most practicing researchers.
    For machine-generated data, even separating the notion of ‘pure facts’ from annotated facts, or those same facts when considered as part of a collection, or a database is tough. I would guess that most published datasets would have some copyrightable portions sneaking in. Additionally, taking a broader understanding of research data would have to include: publications, videos, interview transcripts, novels, etc. Depending on what discipline you find yourself in, the type of ‘data’ you work with could look quite different from the lens of copyright.
    I often refer back to this paper from John Wilbanks, who, at the time, worked at Creative Commons. http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/07/02/Jcom0702%282008%29C01/Jcom0702%282008...
    Cheers,
    Richard
    On 27/03/2015, at 10:15 pm, chrishmorris <***@***.***> wrote:
    To be precise: data, in the sense of a body of facts, cannot be copyrighted. For example, the white pages in a telephone directory are not protected by copyright. Nor can facts the patented.
    A document that presents a selection of facts can be copyright. An idea about how to apply a fact can be patented. In a research context this is sometimes helpful and sometimes unhelpful. But the problem isn’t IP in data as such.
    Regards,
    Chris Morris
    STFC
    From: r.hosking=***@***.***-groups.org [mailto:***@***.***-groups.org] On Behalf Of rhos012
    Sent: 27 March 2015 08:55
    To: Simon Hodson; RDA/CODATA Legal Interoperability IG
    Cc: Paul Uhlir; Mark Gahegan
    Subject: [rda-legalinterop-ig] Re: [rda-legalinterop-ig] [rda-legalinterop-ig] A smartphone app for understanding...
    Hey All,
    ….
    In my mind, we should aspire towards a situation where Copyright is no longer legislated over research data, full stop. I do realize this is not realistic given any reasonable timeframe, nor a helpful first step in any strategy. …
    Cheers,
    Richard Hosking
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